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    02/11/2004

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    jonny

    great post! i completely agree that emerging church has to be global. maybe blogs don't help this side of the conversation?

    i'm very keen to learn and see how the conversation can join up with other parts of the world as well as other cutures in our cities - you throw down the gauntlet to us in london!

    one of the things i have enjoyed about cms is that it is global - i am hoping like you to travel and listen and learn....

    Jonathan Finley

    jonny, let's travel together. when do you want to go?

    roland

    Awesome post - and one that touches on values that I cherish.

    lillylewin

    you are so right!
    we do have on western, white glasses!
    thanks for reminding us that our god is a global god and boy does he have something up his sleeve....and he has really, really big sleeves!
    even in the midwest, we need to be so aware of the influx of "new" folks to our "white" world. we have a hispanic population that is continuing to grow, and our poor ability to relate to aftrican americans in our city have been seen and heard world wide!
    thanks for saying the truth and for reminding me that in the usa atleast, we too often forget what god is doing all over the place.
    i'd love to join you and jonny on your african adventure! lilly

    jamie

    Jonathan.... this post is a perfect example of why I love reading your blog!! :)

    I have been meaning to email you and ask you about this for a while. I have looked through most of your pictures and your videos and I noticed the multicultural flavor of your church and I wondered what your thoughts were on this stuff. It's awesome to see someone on the same page!! Bless you man! You are a real gift from God!

    Paul Fromont

    Salut Jonathan, what a wonderful post. Much that is a wonderful challenge to us all, including remote locales like down here in New Zealand. It expresses much that is a dream for many of us too. Merci Beaucoup.

    Ray

    You pegged it man....

    I'm white, Canadian and male...yet I am a child of immigrants..go figure.

    This whole multi-cultural aspect of His church....it's the point. Whether it's black, white, red or yellow...or punk, rocker, business man, skid or millionare...at the foot of the Cross Dewd...our equality is shown.

    I pray for a true understanding of what God "has up his Massive Sleeve" And I join you in a desire to see what the "browning' of the church brings. But I don't have to go to Africa, I can just go downtown.......talk to people and get to know them.

    If you do go to Africa...man soak some in for me though, OK?

    Come Lord Jesus and free us from our Oakleys..

    God bless, Peace Out.

    James

    Well said! Very well said!

    Stephen

    Yeah - we need to listen to and learn from all the different voices. Others outside of our cultures can breathe new life into things that we've given away as old and stale. Not only that but they can often point out the "log in our eye".

    Frederic

    Great post and so true..it is good to read a good blog from France..Merci

    dave

    .... and that the African believers - and South Americans too - can teach Westerners a thing or two about efective mission among the surrounding culture.

    steve

    applause,
    the one PS I would want to add is that many non-western cultures have not yet felt the full ravages of postmodernity and when they do, the lessons of the emerging church in the west could be helpful. brazilian missionaries go to UK and boy do they struggle, as modern hits postmodern. we all have much to learn from each other. we all speak with accents and work in unique local contexts. this is the kingdom. peace.

    Nigel Rooms

    having worked in Tanzania for 7 years and now in UK for the last two I think there is a connection between pre-modern and post-modern cultures (although there are significant differences too) such that in a few years time we might realise that modernism/enlightenment was just a 200 year blip in cultural history ... on the other hand it might not go away that easily ... but looking for the connections between the pre and post modern could be very fruitful.

    cheryl

    This is the first blog I've read in a long time that makes me remember why I love and long for the church. thankyou.

    Bill Finley

    True
    Convicting
    A voice we need to hear

    Sivin

    "I am precisely interested in the point of contact between Christian Africa and Post-Christian France, the place where I live and work everyday. Can anyone help me?" - thyis statement struck me , because I'm in a post-colonial but probably more pre-Christian (or at least more predominant muslim & non-Christian context) would that be a closer contact with a post-Christian France? Thanks for this blog ... it nudged me to think deeper

    Ben Askew

    Yeah, you got me. I know my own points of contact with the Southern Church don't get beyond charity stuff and justice/injustice thinking. Certainly I've not been willing to learn much.

    You've really challenged me Jonathon, thanks

    Todd

    Thanks for sharing that link, Jonathan. You said so much better what I was wanting to express.

    I will direct people to read this.

    We need to hook up and talk some more.

    keith

    Great stuff. Just quickly for the moment: I've been trying to start church in a muslim area of Burkina Faso, and have been writing occasionally, trying to relate that perspective back to the UK - the latest post was http://voiceinthedesert.netfirms.com/keith/archives/2005/02/emerging_church_3.html

    Look forward to more on this

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