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    09/28/2004

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    Stephen Garner

    Thanks for the links. The first photo reminded me of William Gibson's comment that we're all "wrapped in media" - of technology producing a "consensual hallucination."


    "Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation, by children being taught mathematical concepts... A graphic representation of data abstracted from banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of data. Like city lights, receding..."


    William Gibson, Neuromancer (1984)

    David Finley

    Jonathan:
    I wonder if words, as symbols of what is real, don't always create an emotional distance. It seems to me that images which simulate what is real will always bring us closer to a "real" experience than words can.

    ME:
    Your reflections bring to mind one of my favorite poems, Words by Dana Gioia. Check it out here:


    Speaking as someone who thinks more in sounds and words than images, I must appeal to Gioia's statement in the third stanza: "To name is to know and remember." While creating distance from the "real", words also give clarity and shape to the shifting interpretations that mere images give. The world does not need words, but I do. We do.

    Jonathan Finley

    brother, as you know well, i too need and love words. isn't "confluence" just a great word? in saying that "images bring us closer," it wasn't my intention to suggest that "mere" images (or did you mean mirror images :-) are more important or better than words... yes, we need words. my question, a raw reaction to an art exhibit, has to do with the relationship between words and images (both being symbols of "the real"). it would seem, and i think you would agree, that images can invest words with new or different meaning. just as to name something is to impose a certain meaning, the interpretation of words also shifts when images are superimposed on them... this interplay frames our perception, forces us to understand differently, to experience "the real" differently. all art seeks to impose a particular vision, to make us see as the artist would have us see... but my sense is that a gap (emotional or otherwise) always remains. there is no such thing as the pure transfer of vision from one to another. whatever the media/symbols employed might be, some distortion is always introduced in the transfer... even between brothers; :-)

    i would be interested to HEAR your reflections, as a musician/poet, as to how you SEE sound entering into the confluence of words and images.

    ps did you get that i-sight camera yet? mine works great!

    Jonathan Finley

    thanks, steve, for linking to this post from way downunder... after having neglected my blog for the last several months, i wasn't sure if any of the 13 or so people that read it were still coming to visit..

    Jonathan Finley

    Welcome to the World
    by David Finley

    You can carry in your tiny grasp
    a joy that can not be contained

    I can try to force to language
    that with which words can never be fully named

    That's that you are loved
    Welcome to the world, little one
    You are loved

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